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by Ian Ramrattan @, Wednesday, May 11, 2005, 02:58 (7524 days ago)

70 USD is a lot of money for me to invest in training (per month) and I am not too sure how the analysis of my submitted games would be. Isn't it posible for us to send in one or two games and have them analysed for free? From that we can know if to make the investment.

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by Paul @, UK, Friday, May 13, 2005, 17:18 (7521 days ago) @ Ian Ramrattan

Hi everyone - but this is mostly an idea for the moderator....

I agree with Ian that US$70 per month for 6 months is quite a financial commitment when you don't know exactly what you are going to get for your money. However, from the coaches points of view, asking for some free analyses is also perhaps asking a bit much. How would you feel if 20+ students asked for their 'free' analyses. There's a weeks work there for potentially no financial gain. We all have to earn a living and I don't expect any professional chess player to happily give away his work for free.

The Training Director says that the coaches will be 'operating to a standard set by us', what is that standard? How does the Training Director know that a coach has attained that standard? Who decides which coach is paired up with which student and how do they do this?

It seems reasonable to assume that all the coaches must have analysed games for students before, so how about each coach having a couple of analysed games on the site somewhere? They could be any games that they have copyright permissions for - even their own. They will no doubt already have suitable analyses on file. Perhaps just a note as to the level of player that their analysis was aimed at would be useful.

We, the students, will see in advance what we are getting and know that it will be at the right level for us. The coach will have lost nothing as they will have done no extra work. In fact they may gain more students if their analyses are particularly good.

What does everynoe else think????

Paul

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by Kevin, Friday, May 13, 2005, 21:53 (7521 days ago) @ Paul

? Hi everyone - but this is mostly an idea for the moderator....
?
? I agree with Ian that US$70 per month for 6 months is quite a financial
? commitment when you don't know exactly what you are going to get for your
? money. However, from the coaches points of view, asking for some free
? analyses is also perhaps asking a bit much. How would you feel if 20+
? students asked for their 'free' analyses. There's a weeks work there for
? potentially no financial gain. We all have to earn a living and I don't
? expect any professional chess player to happily give away his work for
? free.
?
? The Training Director says that the coaches will be 'operating to a
? standard set by us', what is that standard? How does the Training Director
? know that a coach has attained that standard? Who decides which coach is
? paired up with which student and how do they do this?
?
? It seems reasonable to assume that all the coaches must have analysed
? games for students before, so how about each coach having a couple of
? analysed games on the site somewhere? They could be any games that they
? have copyright permissions for - even their own. They will no doubt
? already have suitable analyses on file. Perhaps just a note as to the
? level of player that their analysis was aimed at would be useful.
?
? We, the students, will see in advance what we are getting and know that it
? will be at the right level for us. The coach will have lost nothing as they
? will have done no extra work. In fact they may gain more students if their
? analyses are particularly good.
?
? What does everynoe else think????
?
? Paul

I completely agree. I rejected the coaching option out of hand because of the reasons outlined by others, but I would be willing to reconsider it if sample analysis for a player of about my rating were given.

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by Falsehat @, Monday, May 16, 2005, 09:36 (7519 days ago) @ Kevin

Seeing 5-6 samples of varing quality of the member's analysis and the analysis and comments of the teacher would be useful.

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by gio, Monday, May 16, 2005, 14:36 (7518 days ago) @ Paul

Paul
there are hundreds of chess sites that offer analysis of games for prices similar to this one.
What really counts is what happens next.For example will the teacher give you appropriate exercise,home work,to help you to improve?is he going to check your improvements?Lets face it to be very serious at chess means to go to school again and takes quite a long time.The commitment of the coach is as important as yours not in the short term but in the medium long term.
Spending money for few months will make a very small difference.
Regards

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